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Add proof for T28#1710

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@felixpernegger felixpernegger commented Mar 26, 2026

Closes #1708. The proof here is copied from @Moniker1998 and slightly adapted.

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prabau commented Mar 26, 2026

Slightly sloppy in the language used. Also, need more detail about one thing. How do we know there is a finite subcover $\mathcal{V}$? It's because A is also countably compact because it is a closed in X. So need to state something extra here.

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prabau commented Mar 26, 2026

The non-T0 version would also be true it seems:
[ R1 + countably compact + first countable => regular ]
and is currently not known in pi-base (and would imply the existing T28).

I am not pushing for it though. If one day we get pi-base to use Kolmogorov quotients automatically, this new version would be implicitly derivable from the existing T28 and the existing T28 would be sufficient and preferable (simpler).

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marking this as requesting changes so it does not get accidentally merged

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prabau commented Mar 26, 2026

@felixpernegger Have you looked in mathse to see if there was a proof available? (I haven't)

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@felixpernegger Have you looked in mathse to see if there was a proof available? (I haven't)

no, but since this is a 1 paragraph proof a outside reference is more distracting than helpful in my opinion

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prabau commented Mar 26, 2026

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The non-T0 version would also be true it seems: [ R1 + countably compact + first countable => regular ] and is currently not known in pi-base (and would imply the existing T28).

I am not pushing for it though. If one day we get pi-base to use Kolmogorov quotients automatically, this new version would be implicitly derivable from the existing T28 and the existing T28 would be sufficient and preferable (simpler).

I suppose we get no new traits out of the non-t0 generalisation? in this case i agree to focus on the t0 case

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prabau commented Mar 26, 2026

@felixpernegger are you planning to fix further things here or you are done?

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prabau commented Mar 26, 2026

Maybe no need to be so explicit about closed hereditariness, but we should implicitly indicate we are using it.
I want to suggest a few other things at the same time, style wise. Let me try to write this up separately first.

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prabau commented Mar 26, 2026

Should we add a sentence at the end: This shows that $X$ is {P11}.
(P11= regular, which is what this is showing) or is it good enough?

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changes have been added, so the rest is minor.

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Should we add a sentence at the end: This shows that $X$ is {P11}. (P11= regular, which is what this is showing) or is it good enough?

Good enough...

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prabau commented Mar 26, 2026

@Moniker1998 should review

@Moniker1998 Moniker1998 merged commit 5f61345 into main Mar 26, 2026
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@prabau perfect to me

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T28 needs an argument

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